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Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 673	Posted - 2014.01.24 15:48:00 - [1] - Quote So all we every hear out of the 0.0 Coalitions when there is a fleet fight is who blobbed who, TiDi was terrible, and if it wasnGÇÖt for GÇ£XGÇ¥ then so and so would have wonGÇªGÇª This seems to then spiral up into what CCP is doing wrong and what they need to fixGÇªGÇª.which ends up being some server/node/code/math discussion that any sane person can see couldnGÇÖt be solved anytime soon. So why donGÇÖt the players intervene to come up with their own solution? PL and CFC just hammered out a pretty lengthy agreement related to the rules of engagement between these two parties. Why canGÇÖt the leaders of majority space holders in 0.0 sit down and hammer out a agreement related to 0.0 combat which fits within the current game capabilities which can be adjusted each year as CCPs hardware gets better? There are basically about 10 people who drive 0.0 content which can escalate into 2,000+ in system so it doesnGÇÖt need to be that every Alliance CEO has to be at the table to do this. This GÇ£reasonsGÇ¥ for the blob/coalitions etc. existing has been examined endlessly so the details and framework of a 0.0 engagement agreement can easily be crafted to address these factors etc. Example Idea: Alliance GÇ£RankingGÇ¥ system: Each Null sec Alliance is given a rank 1, 2, 3, 4 determined by size, time zone, and any other factors . Alliances like PL are ranked 1 while Alliances like Li3 are ranked a 3 for example. If PL goes after Li3 than Li3 can request help from 2 other Alliances ranked 3GÇÖs as well to help. Any other Alliances that enter the filed during the fleet fight are now hostile to all parties on the field and are the focus until driven off the field etc. This ranking only applies to direct SOV threats and not to any other engagement like POS take downs, griefing, hotdrops, etc. This way itGÇÖs kept simple and as balanced as possible. Maybe use current GÇ£War DeclarationGÇ¥ calculations to determine rank or something and Alliances that respond to the lower ranked Alliance request for help need to accept so thereGÇÖs no GÇ£misunderstanding as to who the other ranked Alliances were that are involved in the war are etc. EVE has some of the smartest people playing it yet when it comes to figuring out how to solve the only issue 0.0 cries the most about they seem to become the dumbest people on the planetGÇª..wtf? Form some sort of Council and sit the ** down to hammer some kind of agreement out that works with what the games capabilities are currently and adjust it each year. With great power comes great responsibility so man the up and do something game changing instead of crying like school girls each time TiDi kills a GÇ£GFGÇ¥GÇªGÇªGÇªunless itGÇÖs the only thing that saves your ass in these engagements, and in that case maybe you down want to develop a solution?.........or give yourself a rank that allows you to play at the level youGÇÖre comfortable with. C/D? . Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á** --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 675	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:38:00 - [2] - Quote Not to be a ** but if you knew anything about 0.0 youGÇÖd know that many fights are brought about via back channel discussions between opposing sides etc. Fights have always either happened or not by each side examining what the others numbers, ship doctrines, and who else might show up and a good portion of these potential fights donGÇÖt end up happening because something is perceived to be very lopsided. But again, IGÇÖm not interested in solving that , IGÇÖm pointing to the fights like 6VDT, HED-GP etc that end up drawing everyone to the fight and no one ends up having a good time. The focus is on GÇ£WarsGÇ¥ and SOV, not skirmishes, CSSA take downs, hotdrops, and random fleet fights that always happen organically (Like Asakai) all over EVE, IGÇÖm talking the big timers and Alliance vs. Alliance wars etc. To those that say that this or any similar idea wouldnGÇÖt be followed by the majority of Null Sec, I would simply point to the SOV map and say that it appears to be working pretty well know under the term GÇ£CoalitionGÇ¥GÇª.. Like I said, the content drivers ( and only the content drivers ) in 0.0 could hammer something out and tbh this wouldnGÇÖt affect most of the people replying to this thread simply because youGÇÖre mostly irrelevant when it comes to these large Null Sec SOV wars so feel free to comment but please know that your negative input falls like a snowflake on hot pavementGÇªGÇª. . Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á** --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 675	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:33:00 - [3] - Quote Abdiel Kavash wrote: The point of an agreement is that it should be beneficial for both sides as long as they uphold it. Your idea is beneficial only to whoever breaks it first... Why? Example? Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 676	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:48:00 - [4] - Quote thetwilitehour wrote: Thanks for posting man, I was starting to get worried, but your drivel is always the herald of us winning a war. War looks like its going pretty well for you?.............Oh, this is where you say "not winning fast enough"... . Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 677	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote Charles Case wrote: Snot Shot wrote: Abdiel Kavash wrote: The point of an agreement is that it should be beneficial for both sides as long as they uphold it. Your idea is beneficial only to whoever breaks it first... Why? Example? Sorry Snots but OTEC would be a good example of "beneficial for both sides as long as they uphold it" hence whey its been upheld for as long as it has. "Your idea is beneficial only to whoever breaks it first"..........Why? Example? We get OTEC being all about the isk and we get the Botlord agreement being about :effort: and isk pretty simple. Setting up the Shadoo "War Games" idea or something similar with ranks would be fun to bet on, kinda like chicken fights but with SMA vs. TEST or Goonies Vs. Nulli etc.... Instead of crying all the time about game mechanics you keep losing to, maybe we take the training wheels off you guys that way you can fight at your weight class etc... . Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 677	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:36:00 - [6] - Quote Proletariat Tingtango wrote: what happened to all the cool as emotes you used to use It's all about placement and timing....... Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 677	Posted - 2014.01.27 21:54:00 - [7] - Quote Andski wrote: Snot Shot wrote: Instead of crying all the time about game mechanics you keep losing to, maybe we take the training wheels off you guys that way you can fight at your weight class etc... . okay It's all about placement and timing... Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
Snot Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 677	Posted - 2014.01.28 09:54:00 - [8] - Quote Charles Case wrote: Snot Shot wrote: Instead of crying all the time about game mechanics you keep losing to, maybe we take the training wheels off you guys that way you can fight at your weight class etc... . Add one more loss to the tally you've been keeping for like half a decade Snot It's all about placement and timing... Podside Podcasts - Episode #170-www.podbay.fm/show/542915403 Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

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